Thursday March 13th, 2008 10:06 AM by BHDC Staff
Filed under: MSNBC, Pat Buchanan, Geraldine Ferraro, Dan Abrams, Keli Goff
Filed under: MSNBC, Pat Buchanan, Geraldine Ferraro, Dan Abrams, Keli Goff
Pat Buchanan got so riled up during a discussion last night about Geraldine Ferraro’s controversial comments that he yelled out “shut up” at pundit Keli Goff during an on-air debate. Liberal talker Rachel Maddow ended up scolding him for the outburst, and MSNBC host Dan Abrams was noticeably shaken:
What did you think of Buchanan’s style?

Rachel was talking on top of Pat. She was not willing to listen while he was talking. It unfortunate that Pat said “shut up”. I think what he meant was “will you let me finish please”. Rachel was disrespectful and its making this all about race. You may not agree with Pat but at least listen to him. After all we did listen to Rachel. Mutual respect and improvement in listening skills all the way around. I don’t know what Pat was trying to say because Rachel was talking on top of him. Can someone teach Rachel some listening skills please?
And MSNBC should let the conversation be open and honest.
Buchanan was set up to look like the bad guy because he wasn’t in studio.
Nothing like a good ring match, I have seen Keli Goff on other show, someone needs to tell that bitch to shut up! Goff, Amy Holmes and Jamal Simmons never know when to let others on the panel have thier turn to speak. What do all the three have in common… Barack Obama supporters! Yes, even the out spoken conservative loud mouth Amy Holmes. Frankly, as soon as I see any of the three on a panel, I turn it too another Network. I have stopped watching CNN coverage on the election because of them. Sorry to now see Goff on MSNBC.
I saw the clip myself last evening, Keli Goff who was a panelist had already had her say, and Pat B. was expressing his opinion It was actually a fact that Keli kept interrupting Pat while he was talking. He had been quiet while she had expressed her views. And the minute he was to have his say, she is the one that started the argrument. Republicans usually want to have their say (Sean Hannity, etc.) and are usually so animated to interrupt others to get their point across. But that was not the case in this little adventure. I’m with Pat B. What he said was not very mannerly. But he was clearly in an argument and he was just making his case.
GO PAT! I TELL PEOPLE TO SHUT UP ALL THE TIME. I ADMIRE THE MAN FOR SAYING IT ON TV. LET THE DEMS KEEP DESTROYING THEMSELVES…SMOOTH SAILING THIS NOVEMBER!
MCCAIN 08
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I agree with you 100%, at least Buchanan asked her to “shut up please”. Rachel was definitely being overbearing. Constantly overtalking Pat. Geez, the Obama camp seems so empowered and that’s because the media is soft on them. Geraldine Ferraro’s observation was definitely true. Obama and supporters can’t seem to handle the plain truth. They always overtalk, have to have the last word. They spend a lot of energy bashing all of the time. I will not be able to handle this mentality of people being elected to our White House.
where is the full clip? i see no rachel maddow.
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I agree with you 100%, at least Buchanan asked her to “shut up please”. Rachel was definitely being overbearing. Constantly overtalking Pat. Geez, the Obama camp seems so empowered and that’s because the media is soft on them. Geraldine Ferraro’s observation was definitely true. Obama and supporters can’t seem to handle the plain truth. They always overtalk, have to have the last word. They spend a lot of energy bashing all of the time. I will not be able to handle this mentality of people being elected to our White House.
CATHY YOU ARE A HILLABITH SUPPORTER AREN’T YOU? NEITHER THE MUSLIM OR HER ARE GOING TO WIN IN NOV. SO SHUT UP! SEE I SAID IT TOO.
MCCAIN 08
I saw the whole 18 minute video, as I am sure its on MSNBC videos, Keli Goff is was out of line, not factual in here statement. I’m not a Buchanan fan, but the man is very smart and knows politics.
Stand your ground Pat!!!!!!! Some of the people need to be told to shut up!!
I agree with Ellen. Kelli had her say, without a peep from Pat. As soon as he started to speak, she jumped all over him, and wouldn’t let him speak. It never looks good for someone to yell shut up at someone on tv, but she deserved to be told to be quiet. You could hear Dan telling her to be quiet. Pat is like the grandpa. He is smart and knows politics, but he isn’t going to be disrespected by a young wipper-snapper interrupting him. Especially when he was repsectful and let her have her say.
The point that is being missed here, is Obama is now back stepping on the mail out voting in Florida. Something he firm supported for voting by mail, last June. Yet again, the press not bring this to light. Yet another thing he flip flop on.
YOU DEMS ARE FUNNY. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HUSSEIN BACK PEDDLING ON A MAIL IN VOTE, WHEN IN FACT HILLARY PLEDGED TO NOT CAMPAIGN OR ACCEPT DELEGATES FROM THE STATE. SO WHICH IS MORE HYPOCRITICAL HIM FOR NOT WANTING THE MAIL VOTE, OR HER FOR WANTING THE STATES THAT SHE “WON” TO COUNT AFTER HER PLEDGE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHY MCCAIN WILL WIN IN 08–THE YEAR OF THE MAVERICK.
MCCAIN 08
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I agree with you and I change to another network as well. They are abrasive, overbearing, Obama supporters.
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I agree with you 100%, at least Buchanan asked her to “shut up please”. Rachel was definitely being overbearing. Constantly overtalking Pat. Geez, the Obama camp seems so empowered and that’s because the media is soft on them. Geraldine Ferraro’s observation was definitely true. Obama and supporters can’t seem to handle the plain truth. They always overtalk, have to have the last word. They spend a lot of energy bashing all of the time. I will not be able to handle this mentality of people being elected to our White House.
CATHY YOU ARE A HILLABITH SUPPORTER AREN’T YOU? NEITHER THE MUSLIM OR HER ARE GOING TO WIN IN NOV. SO SHUT UP! SEE I SAID IT TOO.
MCCAIN 08
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Unless you’re a genie in a bottle, perhaps you should SHUT UP.
While Pat had a right to be angry that he wasn’t able to speak, his word choice was unfortuante, though not unexpected. Pat Buchanon has always shown himself to be a vain, self-loving, close-minded, partisan conservative. If you don’t agree with him, you don’t get any respect from Pat B.
Any Clinton supporter should seriously look at the company they are beginning to keep. Bill Clinton going on Rush Limbaugh begging for votes. Clinton supporters loving Pat B’s comments because they are anti-Obama.
Why do you think some of the largest conservative voices of our generation are suddenly supporting Hillary Clinton? They want her to keep winning to extend the Democratic race, so John McCain will win and extend Bush’s legacy. They want her to be the nominee because they know how to beat her. They know her countless scandals. The know that most of the American people are a little nervous about bringing the only President to be impeached in the last 30 years back into the White House. They know that 48% of the population already views Hillary as unfavorably.
Beware the company you keep. Even if Clinton somehow, miraculously wins the nomination (with help from stats like the 24% of Clinton’s vote that came from Republicans in Mississippi, and the 15% of Clinton voters in MIssissippi who would be UNHAPPY if she were the next President). These votes won’t be with you in the general election. It is a risky path to take to win the Democratic nomination at all costs.
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I agree with you 100%, at least Buchanan asked her to “shut up please”. Rachel was definitely being overbearing. Constantly overtalking Pat. Geez, the Obama camp seems so empowered and that’s because the media is soft on them. Geraldine Ferraro’s observation was definitely true. Obama and supporters can’t seem to handle the plain truth. They always overtalk, have to have the last word. They spend a lot of energy bashing all of the time. I will not be able to handle this mentality of people being elected to our White House.
CATHY YOU ARE A HILLABITH SUPPORTER AREN’T YOU? NEITHER THE MUSLIM OR HER ARE GOING TO WIN IN NOV. SO SHUT UP! SEE I SAID IT TOO.
MCCAIN 08
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Unless you’re a genie in a bottle, perhaps you should SHUT UP.
WTF?! SHUT UP…IT’S ENVIGORATING ISN’T IT?
MCCAIN 08′…THERE’S ALWAYS ROOM FOR YOU DISGRUNTLED DEMS OVER HERE! SEE YOU IN THE FALL!
Most of the journalists on msnbc are obama supporters.Way to go pat!!!! I use to watch all the shows on msnbc until recently.I heard that Tucker is no longer going to be on the show. Who is taking his place, obama supporters no doubt.That is why I no longer watch their shows.If Hillary or Mccain wins the election I will be happy. Anybody but obama. I didn’t buy into his movement.It is not about a movement but who will be able to run our country. If you want to see Hillary get bashed just tune in to morning joe.They have done it for months.
We are just starting to learn of the company Obama keeps… “Holly Shit”
Matt - Pat’s comments are NOT anti-Obama. That is why he is coming across better then most in the news lately. He is going to the facts, not partisanship. He has given kudos, and blame to both candidates, when it is deserved. The only reason he comes across as anti-obama to obama supporters is because he dares to speak negatively at times about Obama.
Same reason so many people thought the SNL skits were pro-Hillary. SNL made fun of BOTH of them, but the mere fact that they dared criticize Obama made everyone think it was PRO hillary.
Some nice Pat Buchanon quotes for all you Clinton supporters:
” On race relations in the late 1940s and early 1950s: “There were no
politics to polarize us then, to magnify every slight. The ‘negroes’ of
Washington had their public schools, restaurants, bars, movie houses,
playgrounds and churches; and we had ours.” (Right from the Beginning,
Buchanan’s 1988 autobiography, p. 131)”
” Buchanan, who opposed virtually every civil rights law and court
decision of the last 30 years, published FBI smears of Martin Luther King
Jr. as his own editorials in the St. Louis Globe Democrat in the mid-1960s.
“We were among Hoover’s conduits to the American people,” he boasted (Right
from the Beginning, p. 283).”
” In a 1977 column, Buchanan said that despite Hitler’s anti-Semitic and
genocidal tendencies, he was “an individual of great courage…Hitler’s
success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an
intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness
masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood
in his path.” (The Guardian, 1/14/92)”
” In a 1977 column urging a “thrashing” of gay groups, Buchanan wrote:
“Homosexuality is not a civil right. Its rise almost always is
accompanied, as in the Weimar Republic, with a decay of society and a
collapse of its basic cinder block, the family.” (New Republic, 3/30/92)”
Are these views you really want to support? I can keep going for years.
The man is one of the worst, close-minded conservatives and bigots of our generation.
At what costs are you willing to go to see Hillary as your President?
Here’s some more great Pat Buchanon quotes:
http://www.mtsu.edu/~baustin/buchanan.html
“Rail as they will about ‘discrimination,’ women are simply not
endowed by nature with the same measures of single-minded ambition and
the will to succeed in the fiercely competitive world of Western
capitalism.” (syndicated column, 11/22/83)
“The real liberators of American women were not the feminist
noise-makers, they were the automobile, the supermarket, the shopping
center, the dishwasher, the washer-dryer, the freezer.” (Right from the
Beginning, p. 149)
“If a woman has come to believe that divorce is the answer to every
difficult marriage, that career comes before children .. no democratic
government can impose another set of values upon her.” (Right from the
Beginning, p. 341)
Yup, sounds like he’s the kind of guy Hillary supporters should trust and believe in.
“Buchanan was a featured columnist for The Spotlight, a patently
anti-Semitic and anti-Black publication that championed David Duke.”
“In a March 17, 1990 column, Buchanan wrote that it was impossible for
850,000 Jews to be killed by diesel exhaust fed into the gas chamber at
Treblinka. “Diesel engines do not emit enough carbon monoxide to kill
anybody.” According to Jacob Weisberg in his article “The Heresies of Pat
Buchanan,” October 22, 1990, The New Republic, “Buchanan stands by his
bizarre claim about the diesel engines but refuses to discuss it on the
record. Suffice it to say that he embraces a bolder debunking claim than
he is yet willing to endorse in print…Where did he get the anecdote
(”proving” his assertion about the diesel)? ‘Somebody sent it to me.’
“Buchanan’s source was almost certainly the July 1988 issue of a Newsletter
of the German American Information and Education Association–a known
Holocaust denial group which quotes extensively from a story of
schoolchildren who emerged unharmed after being exposed to diesel fumes
while trapped in a train tunnel.”
Not to mention the shrewed Jack Cafferty. He is the absolute worst. CNN is totally biased and I don’t watch when either of those Jackasses are on. Candy, Lou, and Anderson Rock but the others are biased haters against the Clinton campaign. I’d rather watch a rock than to watch those other hacks.
We are just starting to learn of the company Obama keeps… “Holly Shit”
DUCK-
ARE YOU A HILLABITCH SUPPORTER? FEELING NEGLECTED BY YOUR PARTY? FEEL THAT THE MUSLIM IS GETTING PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT, THERE IS ONLY ONE OPTION…VOTE MCCAIN IN THE FALL. HE HAS MORE EXPERIENCE THAN EITHER OF THESE TWO SHAMS OF A CANDIDATE. NEITHER CAN WIN IN THE FALL. MCCAIN IS THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THE JOB, SEE IM NOT SAYING WOMEN OR BLACK, P E R S O N!
Not to mention the shrewed Jack Cafferty. He is the absolute worst. CNN is totally biased and I don’t watch when either of those Jackasses are on. Candy, Lou, and Anderson Rock but the others are biased haters against the Clinton campaign. I’d rather watch a rock than to watch those other hacks.
ARE YOU A HILLABITCH SUPPORTER? FEELING NEGLECTED BY YOUR PARTY? FEEL THAT THE MUSLIM IS GETTING PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT, THERE IS ONLY ONE OPTION…VOTE MCCAIN IN THE FALL. HE HAS MORE EXPERIENCE THAN EITHER OF THESE TWO SHAMS OF A CANDIDATE. NEITHER CAN WIN IN THE FALL. MCCAIN IS THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THE JOB, SEE IM NOT SAYING WOMEN OR BLACK, P E R S O N!
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I agree with you 100%, at least Buchanan asked her to “shut up please”. Rachel was definitely being overbearing. Constantly overtalking Pat. Geez, the Obama camp seems so empowered and that’s because the media is soft on them. Geraldine Ferraro’s observation was definitely true. Obama and supporters can’t seem to handle the plain truth. They always overtalk, have to have the last word. They spend a lot of energy bashing all of the time. I will not be able to handle this mentality of people being elected to our White House.
CATHY YOU ARE A HILLABITH SUPPORTER AREN’T YOU? NEITHER THE MUSLIM OR HER ARE GOING TO WIN IN NOV. SO SHUT UP! SEE I SAID IT TOO.
MCCAIN 08
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Unless you’re a genie in a bottle, perhaps you should SHUT UP.
WTF?! SHUT UP…IT’S ENVIGORATING ISN’T IT?
MCCAIN 08′…THERE’S ALWAYS ROOM FOR YOU DISGRUNTLED DEMS OVER HERE! SEE YOU IN THE FALL!
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No comment from any Hillary Clinton supporters about supporting one of the biggest sexist, racist, anti-semitic, homophobic men in our country?
Shame on you.
I’m no longer worried about Obama losing the Democratic vote of Hillary Clinton. It’s pretty clear none of you are Democrats. Pat Buchanon stands for everythign Democrats are against. If you are truly willing to vote for the Bush tax cuts, the Bush war in Iraq, the Bush style of arrogance, over a candidate who supports reformed health care, middle-class tax cuts, and getting our of the war in Iraq, you are not a Democrat.
Hey Matt…
google “the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr”
Holly Shit !!
Jeremiah’s views, while contreversial, are nothing compared to the three decades of HATE from Pat Buchanon. Wright speaks about the black community, and the hatred faced by the black community from Whites. He sometimes crosses the line when criticizing whites, but at least he has good reason to be angry.
What does Pat Buchanon have to be angry about? He is a rich, powerful, white politician. He cannot stand the fact that a black man OR a woman might be in control of this country.
I’ve gotta admit, this new Pat Buchanon/Hillary Clinton supporter truce is one of the most ironic and hysterical things I’ve ever seen. Have fun supporting a man who believes that you’re candidate’s place is in the kitchen, not in the workplace let alone the Presidency.
I’m out. Have fun talking about Barack Obama all day.
You guys sure do talk about him a lot for people that supposedly support other candidates.
JOHN MCCAIN IS THE BEST CANDIDATE FOR THE JOB. HE IS NOT PLAYING THE RACE CARD OR THE GENDER CARD! HE IS A WAR HERO THAT WILL PROTECT OUR COUNTRY FROM MUSLIM EXTREMISTS LIKE HUSSEIN. HE HAS MORE EXPERIENCE THAN EITHER HILLABITCH OR THE MUSLIM AND HIS CREDENTIALS FAR OUT SHINE BOTH OF THE DEM CANDIDATES TOGETHER. HE WILL BE A UNITER THAT CAN WORK ACROSS PARTY LINES THAT NEITHER HILLABITCH OR THE MUSLIM CAN DO. THEY CAN’T EVEN UNITE THEIR OWN PARTY, NOT TO MENTION THIS COUNTRY. IF YOU WANT REAL CHANGE BETTER VOTE MCCAIN!
MCCAIN 08′
Right Matt…
Jeremiah’s all about love…
Hey Matt…
google “the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr”
Holly Shit !!
DUCK-
HUSSEIN AND HILLABITCH ARE DIVIDERS. THEY WON’T BE ABLE TO WORK ACROSS PARTY LINES LIKE MCCAIN. HE IS THE BEST CANDIDATE FOR THE JOB AND IS NOT USING RACE OR GENDER TO FURTHER DIVIDE THIS COUNTRY. HUSSEIN IS A MUSLIM THAT WILL HAVE AL QUEDA DANCING IN THE STREETS AND HILLABITCH CAN’T MANAGE ANYTHING NOT TO MENTION THIS COUNTRY. HER OWN CAMPAIGN WAS BANKRUPT, HOW WILL SHE HANDLE OUR ECONOMY! MCCAIN IS THE ONE THAT CAN RIGHT THIS SHIP BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. WE CAN ILL AFFORD ON THE JOB TRAINING WITH A WAR AND AN ECONOMY THAT IS HITTING THE SHITTERS. VOTE FOR THE BEST PERSON FOR THE JOB, NOT RACE OR GENDER.
MCCAIN 08′
McCain = WarMonger. He may know how to start a war but dumb as a bag of rocks when it comes to fiscal policy. That’s why this nation will be f–ked if he takes office in January.
Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s Pastor: “Hillary Ain’t Never Been Called A N****r”
Huffington Post | March 13, 2008 09:46 AM
STORY AND VIDEO:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/13/jeremiah-wright-obamas-_n_91312.html
Matt, you Obama supporters are insufferable. To point out that Pat should have had his time to speak is not to support his views. This is called equal opportunity. Just how much time do you have on your hands to come up with all this infor, or is somebody feeding it to you? Hillary is the better candidate, she is more qualified, and her support comes from a wider spectrum of the electorate. Obama has gotten the support of white male republicans who do not want Hillary to win. It is very sad that the Republicans are doing their best to choose the Democratic candidate, and nobody is calling them on it. Hillary 08!!!
It is apparent that you have missed the demographics on all of the races won by Obama so far: overwhelmingly red republican states, hence his cry of, no red states, no blue states the United States. This is rhetoric to diminish the analytical thought of one who would discover that he is only able to win (in any large measure) republican states.
Now by “your expressed logic” about Hillary, how do you account for these “facts” about Obama’s wins? (A tally of his states and their delineation: red or blue, is easily attainable if you want to look them up before you make a more asinine response than your initial remarks.)
CONSIDER YOURSELF FUCKED! YOU DEMS ARE IN A CLUSTER FUCK AND WOULDN’T KNOW A GOOD CANDIDATE IF HE/SHE (FOR POLITICAL CORRECTNESS) SLAPPED YOU IN THE FACE. BOTH OF THEM ARE INTRINSICALLY FLAWED AND WILL NEVER WIN IN NOV. THE LONGER THIS RACE GOES ON THE STRONGER THEIR RESPECTIVE SUPPORTERS ARE BEHIND THEM. SO WHEN IT COMES TIME TO CONCEDE, EITHER THE MUSLIMS SUPPORTERS OR HILLABITCH SUPPORTERS WON’T GIVE THEIR SUPPORT TO THE NOMINEE. MANY WILL STAY HOME, OTHERS WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN. YOU’RE STILL FUCKED IN NOV., BUT YOU ARE EVEN MORESO THE LONGER THIS RACE GOES. VOTE FOR THE BEST CANDIDATE AND STOP VOTING ALONG PARTY LINES. MCCAIN COULD PISS OUT MORE EXPERIENCE THAN EITHER OF THESE TWO CANDIDATES HAVE TOGETHER. HE IS THE RIGHT PERSON, THAT HAPPENS TO BE A WHITE MAN FOR THE JOB. I WANT TO WIN THIS WAR AND PROTECT OUR COUNTRY, IF THAT IS FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE THEN SO BE IT.
Obama’s Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
Obama’s Pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Has a History of What Even Obama’s Campaign Aides Say Is ‘Inflammatory Rhetoric’
STORY AND VIDEO:
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4443788&page=1
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